The Total Sound Of The Undergound

Lelahel Metal

In this interview, Joey Rival explores Creative Destruction, reflecting on AI’s rising influence in music, artistic identity, and the challenges of staying authentic in an increasingly saturated, technology-driven creative landscape.

1. Can you introduce your EP Creative Destruction and what inspired its concept around AI in the music industry?

I wanted to try taking my music in a slightly different direction than my previous releases. I have honestly felt discouraged as an underground artist constantly trying to be heard and recently been overwhelmed by A.I. content even more so now in the music arena. Some of the things I’m seeing being done from the art to the music is frankly scary. Not that I think it could replace artist but it is surely making it harder in the already over saturated market to be seen and heard. All these thoughts are what drove my initial creation of this story.

2. What are your personal thoughts on the growing role of AI in music creation—threat, tool, or something in between?

Its really what we allow and accept as a community. I believe it is a double-edged sword. There are people who type prompts and have created full albums, art work etc and make an income off of zero talent or abilities. I find that personally difficult to accept at times as one of the thousands of artists out there just trying to create an be heard for who they are and not be over shadowed by the volume of AI creations. AI like anything comes down to how its being used. 

3. How did your years of experience in metal shape the sound and message of this release?

I planned on taking this wring in a different direction intentionally doing things against my norms and trying to focus on the simplifying of the tracks. I have learned in our current industry the traditional 8 – 10 minuet tracks filled with guitar solos doesn't seem to grab the attention it use to. Despite that being my influence and how most of my prior writing has been done, I took this concept as an opportunity to experiment with simplification.

4. As a guitarist and vocalist, how do you approach balancing technical skill with emotional expression in your music?

That's tough to pin point exactly how it works for me. The foundation of any of my music always starts with a riff. Something just grabs me about it as I’m playing and I build from that. I let the music guide me in a sense. Once I have a good foundation, I listen back and see what emotions it brings out what melodies I hear and as cliche as it sounds again, I let to song guide me to what its saying. In the case of this 3-song concept I started with an overhead Idea and that would have me focus on a specific direction for the writing. The rest just happens.

5. You’ve worked across original projects, tribute acts, and session roles—how have these different experiences influenced your artistic identity?

Getting to work with everyone I have has been such a pleasure and eye opener into real professionalism specifically when working with Chris and Dirk. Sending them a track and how quickly they send back such quality performances blew my mind. Just working with them in comparison to the ''local guy” was made so clear why they are who they are. I got insight into how they record and track which cardinally helped my own growth. Everything I’ve been involved in or those I’ve worked with have left little marks that have helped shape my style. 

6. What was your creative process like when writing and recording Creative Destruction?

Being that I wanted to take this whole EP in a different direction I threw away my traditional way of writing. I approached this from a very different place. The subject matter being AI I focused on that and even ironically used some of the very tools I am speak against in parts of this creation. I was very story focused on this one and everything from the artwork, the tracking, the songs specific names and the order they appear on the EP. The whole thing was designed with this specific theme in mind and is littered with easter eggs and metaphors. 

7. Do you think AI will change the role of musicians in the future, and if so, how should artists adapt?

I do, I think its unavoidable. This is all in the starting phase and just over the last few years has made insane improvements to what its capable of. I do believe we can use it to aid artist in creation but we need to watch just how far we let that go. Allowing FULL AI art and music to have a platform along actual artist, now that's something I don't want.

8. What challenges did you face while developing your solo project compared to working within bands?

It’s all on me, all of it. Writing, recording, artwork, promotions, acting as artist and manager. The amount of hats I have to wear doing this honestly can be difficult but I do it because I love making music. There are times I miss just being another guy in a band that has others working towards the same goal, helping along the way. Sadly, it’s hard to find people to connect with and work well with as an adult with work and family. Things are not like when I was 16 in the garage. Now I just take it little by little and do what I can, keeping myself open to opportunity.

9. Are there specific themes or messages in the EP that you hope listeners take away after hearing it?

There are A LOT. I don't like to throw out my own takes and specific things I did case I love to hear what the listeners find our how things resonate with them. But to those listeners out there that love to hunt through tracks for all the hidden parts, there are plenty.

10. What’s next for Joey Rival—can we expect more solo material, collaborations, or live performances soon?

I felt this was a turning point really. All my earlier work came from a different mental space I had been in at that time. Where I find myself today, this EP is more reflective of those struggles. The Eps title ''creative destruction “was not only talking about what AI is doing but maybe implying my own. Often asking myself what’s the point in these releases, these creations, if they only fall on deaf ears. Ultimately music is what makes up most of who I am and I could never really stop. I do have plans for continued solo releases and collaborations for the future. I am always keeping myself open to working with other artist and groups as well. Live, I sure would like to again at some point. It has honestly been too long since I’ve gotten to enjoy that part of this and I do miss it. Will see what the future holds.

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